Last Updated: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:31
Patrick Vieira claims Manchester City's lack of experience in European football has been their downfall in the Champions League.
City's football development executive has been disappointed with the club's performances in Europe this season as they are without a win in the opening four group matches and are set to crash out of the competition at the same stage as last term.
Vieira feels, despite having the likes of experienced campaigners such as Yaya Toure, Sergio Aguero, Carlos Tevez and David Silva in the squad, City's lack of history in the Champions League has worked against them.
The 36-year-old former France international said: "I think people are really demanding but Champions League is a different level.
"The Champions League, it's not just (about) players - it's about a football club and how you grow up. It is new for us. We're learning and I believe we're going to get better. But it will take time."
City must defeat Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in their final Group D games and hope other results go their way to have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stages. But Vieira feels last season's dramatic Premier League title success on the final day shows the City players will not give up without a fight.
"I believe that when the door is still open, however small it is, there is always going to be a chance," Vieira added.
"Of course we didn't help ourselves, didn't make ourselves any favours but the door is not completely closed.
"It is still open and we have to believe after what happened last year and the goals we've scored in the last minute of games, that gives us hope."
If City fail to qualify then a third place finish in the group will hand them a chance of European glory via the Europa League and punters can use a free bet to back City to pick up some silverware on the continent this season.
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